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Topic Hoops sizes By nokon Date 11-11-2012 20:53
OK thanks. So those sizes do exist....Looks like I will have to order them from the UK! Can you recommend any tire distributor that you know of that would stock the correct sizes? Regards, Kurt
Topic Hoops sizes By nokon Date 11-11-2012 16:22
OK so I am going to change the tyres on the C1 since it is already down for a starter swap. The consensus on the forum is that Hoops are the best. My Avons are scalloped badly in only 4000 mi. My question is: what exact size are the Bridgestone Hoops used on a C1? I see recommended tire sizes for a C1 of 120/70-13 front and 140/70-12 rear but I cannot find a distributor that has those exact sizes in Bridgestone. So, could someone look at their tires and tell me what is fitted? I have tried to check thru the old posts and there is a lot of talk about tires but no sizes given. Regards, Kurt
Topic no start By nokon Date 10-11-2012 14:25
Thanks! Is it possible to remove the starter without removing the side panels, or the whole motor (haha)....
Topic no start By nokon Date 09-11-2012 22:13
I have a starting problem. For the past few weeks, my C1-200's starter seemed to have a hard time getting through the first compression cycle, but would then break through and start the motor handily. I thought that the battery was getting a little weak. Then two days ago after work, the C1 cranked a little and then slowed to a stop like a dead battery. The next day, I connected my trickle charger, which claimed the battery was fully charged within just a few minutes. The horn blows perfectly, and a voltmeter shows no appreciable drop when either blowing the horn or pressing the starter button. The starter relay is clicking quite nicely, not "buzzing". Yet, the starter motor is now not turning at all. 

I applied a charger with a hi-amp "starting" setting to the battery circuit, and the starter turned very slowly a few times and stopped. Repeated attempts produced no motion at all. I then applied the charger directly to the starter's positive connection. The motor did not turn. Could this situation be caused by anything other than a starter motor failure? Thanks in advance, Kurt
Topic oil light flickers at idle By nokon Date 22-07-2012 20:14
Thanks again I will try the fix....regards
Topic key fob needed to start C1 By nokon Date 22-07-2012 20:13
Thanks, I'll search for the info in older postings. It is a constant worry for me, that key fob. Regards....
Topic oil light flickers at idle By nokon Date 09-07-2012 18:54
I recently changed oil to Valvoline racing oil which I use in all my other motorcycles. Soon afterwards I noticed that the oil light would flicker at idle.
I cannot relate it to engine temperature, sometimes it flickers when I first start and then goes away, and sometimes it stays flickering even though the C1 is warmed up completely.
I looked at old posts on the subject, and one mentioned "high end oil" creating this phenomena. Is there real problem with using some oils, or is it just a pressure sensor problem?
Should I use a particular weight of oil? The temperatures here in the summer are quite high. Regards, Kurt
Topic key fob needed to start C1 By nokon Date 09-07-2012 18:02
Hi everyone. I have been off of the forum for a long time, and in fact I should check on whether I am paid up! I now ride my C1 in the Florida Keys from home to work, 52 miles each day. It is a great vehicle for the area, because gasoline without alcohol in it is very expensive here. I cannot park it anywhere and go into a store however, as I will return to tourists sitting on it while their picture is taken!
Anyway, I have a question about the key fob. I never use the alarm because it appears that I cannot remember the sequence to arm/disarm it and I am always setting it off! However, the keyfob appears necessary just to START the bike. I have to turn on the ignition, and then press the right side button on the fob. I then hear a muffled clunk and that is my sign that the bike will now start.
Does every C1 need the fob to start? Of course I have nobody with a C1 locally to compare. Is there any way to eliminate this step from the starting procedure? I hate carrying the fob around on my key ring and I am afraid that I will be marooned somewhere due to a low battery in the fob.
Also, does anyone have an electronic copy of the elusive immobiliser manual that they could email to me?
Topic ABS lights By nokon Date 29-01-2010 17:37
C1 members, my ABS issue was solved by obtaining a used rear ABS sensor from the C1 club parts stash, courtesy of SuperTed and Clunkfish. Here is my letter to Ted regarding the shipment of the parts:

Ted,

Hi, I arrived home yesterday to find the box from you locked in my old Chevy, safe & sound!

The dashboard you sent was intact and is in great shape. It has all the same switch cutouts as mine. I see now that the finish is rubbery like the finish on the mirrors. My dash is sticky like tar, and if you scratch it with your fingernail it comes off! I wish I knew what chemical the previous owner used on it so that I could avoid it in the future!

The ABS sensor is physically a little different than mine, the "cylinder" being bigger around. But I plugged it in and turned on the power, and poof the ABS warning lights went out!!!!!!!!!! So I installed it (had to shim it out a few thousandths) and it seems to work great. I will have to wait for wet weather to attempt to prove the ABS is "doing something".

Once again thanks so much for your assistance. THe dash was packed brilliantly and I couldn't be happier with the result. Please thank Clunkfish for me as well. I sure appreciate the C1 club.

I am going to take the C1 to Daytona Beach for bike week. I will attend the flat-track races there, and also the vintage bike auction in Deland, FL. I expect I will be answering a lot of questions such as "what the hell is that??"

Regards, Kurt (nokon)
Topic sticky paint By nokon Date 29-01-2010 17:33
C1 members: My problem "sticky paint" was solved by obtaining a used dash from the C1 club parts stash, with the help of SuperTed and Clunkfish. Here is my letter to Ted re the shipment:

Ted,

Hi, I arrived home yesterday to find the box from you locked in my old Chevy, safe & sound!

The dashboard you sent was intact and is in great shape. It has all the same switch cutouts as mine. I see now that the finish is rubbery like the finish on the mirrors. My dash is sticky like tar, and if you scratch it with your fingernail it comes off! I wish I knew what chemical the previous owner used on it so that I could avoid it in the future!

The ABS sensor is physically a little different than mine, the "cylinder" being bigger around. But I plugged it in and turned on the power, and poof the ABS warning lights went out!!!!!!!!!! So I installed it (had to shim it out a few thousandths) and it seems to work great. I will have to wait for wet weather to attempt to prove the ABS is "doing something".

Once again thanks so much for your assistance. THe dash was packed brilliantly and I couldn't be happier with the result. Please thank Clunkfish for me as well. I sure appreciate the C1 club.

I am going to take the C1 to Daytona Beach for bike week. I will attend the flat-track races there, and also the vintage bike auction in Deland, FL. I expect I will be answering a lot of questions such as "what the hell is that??"

Regards, Kurt (nokon)
Topic sticky paint By nokon Date 25-12-2009 01:59
The BMW dealers in the USA have never heard of the C1. And they wouldn't order parts for me when I asked, even if I provided a part number. Their ordering system would indicate there was no such part.  They have no database for it.

However, maybe paint they could source, especially if one of the US model BMWs also uses that paint. I may ask them about this. I intend to stop by the BMW dealership in Miami once I get the C1 on the road. Regards, Kurt.
Topic sticky paint By nokon Date 25-12-2009 01:52
Yes, I finally sanded down the lower fairing panels. The paint & the primer underneath were both "sticky". I used successively lower grit wetpaper, and then a spray paint that was specified for plastics. They came out OK, but it sure was a lot of work. Even though the paint was like tar, it didn't want to go away, it was melted deep into the plastic. I think I am going to put off doing the dashboard for a year. The fairing lowers were all chipped up so they needed help right away. I think I can live with the sticky dash until next rainy season...thanks, Kurt
Topic ABS lights By nokon Date 07-12-2009 13:29
I'll check all the connections next weekend. There sure is a lot of electrical wiring on this bike! Regards, Kurt
Topic sticky paint By nokon Date 07-12-2009 13:28
Hi,

I wish I was local to you but no I live in the Everglades swamp, Florida, USA. Very remote & only a few C1s in the states. Is your dashboard paint glossy or flat? Is it sticky to the touch? Just wondering if anyone has experienced this, or if BMW somehow thought this paint was like a leather feel.......Regards, Kurt
Topic sticky paint By nokon Date 07-12-2009 00:19
I wonder if this is a subject discussed in the past. There are 4 panels on my C1 labeled "ABS". They are the dashboard, the cover on the handlebars, and the 2 I would call the "fairing lowers" I guess. I just tried to clean them because they had always felt sticky, or as if BMW was experimenting with a paint that had a rubbery feel. Well, they don't clean up, and the paint can be removed somewhat with my fingernail. Very soft. In an inconspicuous spot I removed some paint and there is grey primer underneath, but that is sort of soft as well.

Anyway, I was wondering if anybody had heard of this happening before. Maybe someone treated these panels with a cleaner that reacted with the paint? THey always looked flat black, are they supposed to be gloss? Anyone ever repaint these panels? I'm wondering how to remove the old paint without damaging the ABS. Also wondering what kind of paint to redo them with.

I've never seen a C1 in person besides my own which places me at a disadvantage!

Regards, Kurt
Topic reassembling plastic pieces By nokon Date 07-12-2009 00:07
Thanks...it will be awhile as I have to repair what I have!
Topic ABS lights By nokon Date 07-12-2009 00:05
Speedo is working well. Brakes are great, bled & new pads. The ABS lights were on from the moment I fired it up, without moving an inch. Hmmmmmmmmm.
Topic ABS lights By nokon Date 07-12-2009 00:03
I know the bearings are good, just replaced. I'll check the gap & the leads next weekend. Thanks.
Topic reassembling plastic pieces By nokon Date 05-12-2009 16:31
Next on my agenda is reassembling the plastic pieces onto my C1. All of them are off right now, many needing plastic tabs repaired with Plastex.

Has anyone ever listed the correct order to reassemble all these panels onto the frame? I just know I will be putting some on, and then pulling them off to put others on first, etc.

Regards, Kurt
Topic ABS lights By nokon Date 05-12-2009 16:24
I am finally done reassembling my C1-200 from pieces (with the exception of the plastic) with all the service done as I went. It took forever because I have full-time work and many other "projects". I even took it for a fun test-drive and all was well except both ABS lights are on. I did have to bleed the brakes to change out the fluid. The brakes seem to work OK.

Any clues on how to get the lights to go out?

Regards, Kurt
Topic OEM parts needed By nokon Date 08-01-2009 20:14
I'll take a real good look in the head for the old gasket before I order,thanks. Regarding the battery cover, is that all that contains the battery? I received the C1 with the battery removed, and did not know that there were pieces missing. Usually in a regular motorcycle there are retaining straps or brackets to keep the battery immobile as the bike hits bumps. I don't see anything of the sort in my battery box or in the diagrams on Real OEM. There is a part called "damper rubber".....Regards, Kurt
Topic OEM parts needed By nokon Date 08-01-2009 20:01
Thanks, I will do it. Regards,Kur
Topic OEM parts needed By nokon Date 05-01-2009 19:43
Hi,

I am just starting to work on my C1 again after almost a year off! Not lazy, just other things like a job got in the way. Anyway, it is getting close to completion, but I find that I need a few bits like exhaust pipe gasket, new exhaust studs & nuts, and the cover for the battery compartment.

From RealOEM.com I have the part numbers, but I could not find an online OEM vendor that handled C1 parts. I could find many that had parts for the other MCs, but not the C1.

I'm hoping for some advice on where I might be able to get these parts.

Regards, Kurt 
Topic valve check By nokon Date 21-06-2008 02:12
Hi there all,

Currently I am checking my valves before I finally put the motor back in the bike. I have found a great deal of info on the site about this. I really wasn't looking forward to taking the cam chain & cams off to replace buckets.

I measured the intake/exhaust clearances as .004/.011 inches, which translates to .10/.28 mm. According to the BMW literature, the intake valve is in the center of the clearance range, while the exhaust is at the wide end of the range.

Am I correct in thinking that these clearances are OK for now? Shouldn't the exhaust clearance actually get smaller as the valve wears into the seat? I am not sure how many miles (kms) are on this bike as I have never had a battery installed to activate the odometer. It doesn't look like it has ever had the valve cover opened, or any other assembly touched until I disassembled it to ship it to the USA. 

Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, Kurt
Topic Plastic engine cover By nokon Date 04-04-2007 18:18
Hi, I would love to post pictures....however I haven't seen my camera since I took pictures of my Moto Guzzi brakes to send to a shop a week ago. Maybe this weekend I can do a thorough search of the area, and it will turn up under a pile of tools or parts! Regards, Kurt
Topic Tubes in my tires By nokon Date 04-04-2007 18:00
Thanks again. I will begin my quest for an English-speaking scooter tire place. That will be a challenge in Miami-Dade county. I may need to bring an interpreter from where I work to get the job done! Gracias y buenas tardes, Kurt (nokon)
Topic Plastic engine cover By nokon Date 04-04-2007 17:54
Thanks to all for your replies. Yes, it is the plastic cover with foam that is applied to the alternator side of the motor. The top of it is attached with 2 studs which stick out of the cylinder head, and the bottom is attached with 2 bolts that go into the edge of the alternator case. It covers the whole alternator, cylinder, and cylinder head on that side. I will be riding where the air temperature averages 80 degrees Fahrenheit, and that insulation couldn't be good for heat transfer from the motor to the air.

I think I will remove the cover and insulation entirely. I am lucky that there is not corrosion underneath it already. This C1 looked very nice, but underneath the panels and on the motor assembly you can see the ravages of a few London winters. I doubt it was ever cleaned in the nooks & crannies, and no corrosion protection was used.

The large alloy casting that holds the axle and pulleys for the belt is corroded pretty good on the outside where the tire would throw water into its honeycombs. Has anyone discovered a good preservative for this alloy, besides disassembling the whole thing and getting the part stripped and epoxied? I think there is a limit to what I can do for this bike, if I ever want to ride it. Maybe when I have to rebuild the engine, I will disassemble the whole mess and get this casting dealt with properly, but I just would like to clean it up and put something on it to prevent further corrosion. It is so thick that structurally there is no problem at all.

Regards, Kurt (nokon)
Topic Tubes in my tires By nokon Date 04-04-2007 17:34
Hi,

Thanks to all for your replies. Yes, I figured that the C1 was tubeless. I wonder why the seller had tubes in them? Are the valve stems that the C1 usually has, made with a 90 degree bend in them, or straight?

I guess I am an old fogey, because this is my first bike (out of 30+) that doesn't have spokes (or tubes)! I've never been to a mechanic, was always too cheap! The C1 has been very fun to take apart, as there are so many odd things about it, compared to a regular motorcycle. Very well built, but complicated.

I will probably have a scooter dealer mount them this time, since I need the valves, and while they are at it, they can balance them. I have to get used to paying for services, instead of doing it all myself. I should save my energy for riding the MCs and womanizing............Kurt
Topic Plastic engine cover By nokon Date 03-04-2007 22:17
Hi,

I am working on getting my C1 road-worthy. I pulled the plastic engine cover off of the motor, which was difficult because the foam (insulation?) inside of it was bonded to the engine case in many places. I don't think it was supposed to be bonded to the engine, but rather is supposed to be glued into the plastic cover. I was able to extract most of the foam in one piece. But, I remember a post sometime ago saying that they were removing the foam, as it only held water when riding in the rain. What was the purpose of the foam? If it is just for noise abatement, I think I will get rid of it. But I thought that maybe the plastic cover might melt without it installed. I would appreciate some advice and regards, Kurt (nokon).
Topic Tubes in my tires By nokon Date 03-04-2007 21:51
Hi all,
Although I have had my C1 back in the 'states for over a year, I am just starting to work on it in earnest. It has all the usual problems like broken plastic tabs, and the cracked swing-arm spacer, etc. I have been able to find tips on the site for most everything. But, when I went to put on my new tyres, I found that my wheels had inner tubes! From looking at the forum, I can't find any mention of inner tubes, and the rims appear to be able to run without. Any idea why the previous owner was running tubes, and where I could get tubeless-style valve stems? It took me a long time to find tyres in the USA that fit and met spec, I don't know where I would get inner tubes or proper valve stems...regards, Kurt (nokon)
Topic My UK trip By nokon Date 06-04-2006 22:08
Yes, I am waiting for the crates. They said 2 weeks, we shall see. I am sure that when they arrive I will get a call. And they will want more money! Kurt
Topic My UK trip By nokon Date 06-04-2006 22:07
Thanks for the offer......but it was a last minute thing. I didn't know whether I would finish crating the frame in time to go to Leeds or not. Then I wasn't supposed to stay all night, I meant to leave on the 12:05 bus back to London, but I got lost going back to the bus station and missed it!   Kurt
Topic My UK trip By nokon Date 03-04-2006 17:26
I am back in the 'states but had a fun & busy trip to the UK. I promised that I would detail how it went so here goes:

Friday 17th: Landed @ heathrow, bought an oyster card, tube to N. Finchley, checked into B&B, sleep.
Sat 18th: Up @ 6A, meet the seller, receive delivery of crate wood from lawsons (driver refused to back down the alley, said he wasn't required to, made me carry the lumber), strip bike and separate engine, build crate for frame. Long day!
Sun 19th: Check out of B&B (expensive), drop suitcase off at sellers garage, take coach to Leeds, attend punk-rock show, sleep in bus station until 6A.
Mon 20th: Coach back to London, tube to N. Finchley, pick up suitcase, tube to King's Cross, check into "basic" room, shower shave sleep.
Tues 21: Tube to N. Finchley, push crate out of garage, close it up. Shipper's truck arrives, woman driver refuses to go down the alley to the garage, says tree branches will scratch her paint. She lets me use her pallet jack and I get help from 2 plasterers working at the house to push it down the muddy alley to the truck. And with that the frame is gone! Build 2nd crate, secure motor assembly, bubble wrap body panels, tube to King's Cross, bed at midnight.
Wed 22nd: Laundry day. Didn't bring enough warm clothes to last, what with being outside most times. Fax declaration to shipper, call to verify and he says the box is oversize, wants 250GBP cash delivered in an envelope. I get USD converted at the post office, and send the gangster the money registered mail. Tube to New cross gate to a vinyl record store and back.
Thurs 23rd: Tube to N. Finchley, sell my spare wood to the plasterers instead of trying to return it, good deal. Returned some screws and misc to a store. Tube to Lewisham to another record store and a music show & mexican dinner, home to bed. Sick of riding the tube, but what a difference from the useless public transport in the 'states. I could get anywhere on that Tube.
Fri 24th: Tourist! Westminster Abbey, Big Ben, War rooms museum and Churchill museum, Horse Guards, Trafalgar square, London Eye, #10 Downing, dinner with the seller in N. Finchley and bed.
Sat 25th: Back to N. Finchley to do the registration papers, shop record stores in Camden market, finally found a good one with 10p singles in the basement, then the power failed and they closed up and threw me out. I wasn't done! Love old vinyl singles. Back to Portobello road to 2 record stores  that are only open weekends, then to bed.
Sun 26th: Back to the Camden record that had the power failure. This time they tell me the guy who runs the basement department hasn't shown up for work so I can't shop down there. I walk around for 2 hours, and he still hasn't reported to work. Finally they say " you look honest, just go down there and bring up what you want". An hour later, the poor hung-over fellow who runs the basement shows up, and proceeds to fall asleep with his face on the counter. When I brought my selections to the counter he awoke, but said, "You count 'em mate, theres too many". But I left there with 116 singles for 11.60! Went to Buckingham Palace and Theatre district then to bed.
Mon 27th: Back to N. Finchley with my rolling suitcase full of records, sealed them in plastic and loaded then in the crate with the C1 parts. Driver arrives for 2nd crate, refuses to go down alley, but 2nd box is lighter and I drag it to the pavement with the pallet jack and off it goes! And I go to Brick St. to look around and have a curry (very good). Back to the King's Cross tenement one more time, pack my belongings and sleep.
Tues 28th: Up at 4: 30A, tube to Heathrow, and off to the states.
Wed 29th: Home, tired with slight flu. Shipper calls, says he doesn't like my description of goods as "used machine parts". He says I have to label them "used petrol scooter parts". I say OK. I was trying to keep "petrol" out of the description. I told him I needed the 2 boxes shipped different weeks so that I wouldn't have to pay storage when they arrived. Hope he does his part.

Well, that's it! Wish I could have met some of you UK members but it wasn't in the cards this time. Sure enjoyed London, but summer would have been better for a tropics guy like me! Brrrrrrrr!

I have a few pics I can post, I wonder as a member is that possible? Regards, Kurt
Topic I lied By nokon Date 03-04-2006 16:31
Yes, please comment on repair of the panels...the C1 i just bought had a number of the plastic fastening points (angle brackets?) snapped cleanly off the large front fairing panels. While the C1 is on the high seas I have been contemplating what to do about that....Kurt
Topic New member wants to import C1 to the USA By nokon Date 25-02-2006 19:01
Well,

I guess I don't have full access yet, because I just see the Open chats and FAQs, etc...Kurt
Topic New member wants to import C1 to the USA By nokon Date 25-02-2006 18:14
Hi,
How can I tell if I have full access? The "top" page has not changed since before I joined.....KT
Topic New member wants to import C1 to the USA By nokon Date 24-02-2006 23:40
All,
I have just purchased a C-1 200 on Ebay for the princeley sum of 2225 GBP. Hope I didn't outbid any other C1 club members! I also bought a full membership in the C1 owner's club today!

The seller is able to keep it for me until I decide how to ship it to the US. My plan is either (A) Buy a plane ticket to the UK, disassemble and pack the bike, then ship the parts via FEDEX or UPS as "used machine parts" or (B) Hire someone to do it for me. I think all but the frame could be easily package shipped. I have seen a picture of the frame, and can't figure out if it has any sub-assemblies that can be separated or is one big piece.

If any mechanic-type club members would be interested in the disassembly and shipping chore, please contact me at ktuck15@ hotmail.com . The C1 is located in North Finchley, London. It could be driven to another location for disassembly and shipping.

I could use advice about which package shipper is more economical. Also, I could use advice about the frame, if it doesn't split into smaller pieces, I would need to send it via a freight shipper. At least it doesn't look like a MC frame and could also be labeled "used machine parts".

Most excited to begin the journey. I'm not going to get ahead of myself and worry too much about titling and registration in the US at this point. Maybe someone else will beat me to it and make my job easier. There are a number of options in Florida, and other states have different laws altogether, so I am sure something will work.

Regards, Kurt
Topic New member wants to import C1 to the USA By nokon Date 27-01-2006 23:34
Well, I forgot to mention that after the 70 miles of rural swampland I have to negotiate 7 miles of insane Miami freeways to get to my workplace. I figured I would need the extra top end to keep from getting killed on that part of the trip. Are the 125 and the 200 the same bottom end with just a larger bore? Or is the stroke different as well, or perhaps a completely different motor? I do all my work myself, so if it is just changing out the jug and piston I would have no problem buying a 125...Regards, Kurt
Topic New member wants to import C1 to the USA By nokon Date 27-01-2006 23:08
Do you already have a bike in the USA? If so, I'd love to know how you got it, and how you were able to title it here..Regards, Kurt
Topic New member wants to import C1 to the USA By nokon Date 27-01-2006 21:15
Nope, I'm no importer...just a guy in FL that loves bikes. I have a unique commute to work, 70 miles of 2-lane highway (US 41) through the Everglades swamp. Flat as a board, no bumps, no challenges that a MC is good for. During rainy season, it is raining somewhere on that road all the time. I have a Kawasaki KLR650, but would be in and out of my rainsuit constantly due to the heat. It is miserable to wear a rainsuit when it is 90 degrees and sunny! So I thought the C1-200 might be just the thing. I drive 55mph the whole way. Lots of wildlife (gators, turtles, bobcats, possums) on the road, so the opportunity of hitting something and falling over is always there.

I shipped my KLR to the Marianas islands, disassembled as "machine parts" in a big wooden crate that I fastened with many wood screws. Nobody ever asked me to open it. That is my only experience with shipping. I am curious as to what process you will attempt to use to get the C1 titled once you do get it here as well.

Regards, Kurt

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