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- - By C-Wonder Date 06-04-2007 18:11
Tuesday evening. Riding home after work. Dry, warm, sunny. A40 choka-blok, stop start all the way into town.


I was on the way to a band rehearsal with my bass strapped to the back of the C1. I must have just been thinking about other things. I just rode straight into the back of a Seat Leon. Must have been travelling around about 40-45. Saw the car has stopped in front. Slammed on the anchors (with no ABS) and subsequently skidded straight into the back of the car. Started out going straight and slowly rotated left before making contact. So the nose and front wheel/forks haven't been touched but the frame/mirror area made the contact. Had a jolt to the right and the bike fell over onto it's side.


Must have been travelling at between 25-30 when I made contact. All limbs stayed in the bike. The belts released immediately I pulled the lever and I got up. The guy in the car was great. He must have braked quickly himself as he said he looked in his RVM to see me hurtling towards him. He got out of the car expecting carniage and mayhem. He couldn't believe that I was OK. In fact I was so relieved to be OK I was in a fantastic mood. He and I quickly got the bike onto it's wheels and took if off the the side of the road. There were hardly any hold up to the traffic. No Police came, no ambulance. The only thing that did come was a recover vehicle I called myself.

Damage to me is virutually nil. I've got a fractured rib but that is it. No scratches, bruises or anything. If I'd have been on a regular bike I would certainly have had a broken arm and leg and most probably have gone over the top of the car and maybe onto the oncoming traffic. Maybe even squished. The C1 amazed me. I ride it because of the safety aspect but also the convenience of London living but I never expected it to perform quite so well in a smash.

To be honest I've been expecting to be involved in an accident for a while now, living in London. I expected a driver to do something silly to have caused it. I feel like a total pratt for being the one to blame. It just goes to show you that you shouldn't get complacent ever when on two wheels. I've learnt the hard way.

We'll have to see what happens with the bike. It sustained a lot of damage. The frame got hit, windscreen smashed, all right-hand side body panels cracked/smashed, right tit, exhaust cover etc. Amazingly though nothing fell off the bike causing debris. The rear lights of the Leon were smashed and on the road, but that was it. That's another reason why the traffic flow could continue so quickly afterwards.

I'll let you know when I hear back from the insurance assessment. I'm not holding out much luck. The bike was valued at £1300 on the insurance document and I have a £350 excess so the most I can hope for is £950. Have you got a spare still Phil?

Looked at the skid marks afterwards and they were about 35 feel long. I was extrememly lucky.

Parent - - By Drynotwet Date 06-04-2007 19:41
Ouch! Glad you're ok, it shows the value of wearing the belts!
good luck with the insurance claim, are you going to buy the bike back? keep us informed, there's usually someone willing to try to resurrect a C1 if possible (and depending on how bad it is damaged/the type of bike you have, I might be one of them!)
Parent - By beamish Date 06-04-2007 20:06
Like you say, had it been any other bike....

Glad you were mainly ok. There are other C1's out there for sale and this one may well have saved your life.

Take care.
Parent - - By C1200 Date 06-04-2007 20:05
So sorry to read this but relieved you are ok,what a horrible experience,hows the bass?
Parent - By C-Wonder Date 07-04-2007 17:49
I was expecting to move the neck of the bass and fear that it was snapped, but not a dink. It even pretty much stayed in tune!
Parent - By purple hat Date 13-05-2007 12:56
Gosh, glad you are ok apart from the cracked rib!  :)
Parent - By timo Date 06-04-2007 20:45
This is a club that I hope no more of the c1ub members join.

Glad your mostly ok.  Good luck with the insurance company.
Parent - By greenrickoshea Date 07-04-2007 12:36 Edited 07-04-2007 12:38
Hi C-wonder,

There but for the grace of god go all of us.

The main thing is that you're OK apart from the broken rib(only when you laugh). Is that to do with the belts?

Was it wet or dry?

The insurance valuations are interesting. It does not adequately reflect the true worth of these bikes, especially as they are no
longer being made. This is leading to valuations much lower than one would expect on the open market. Ithink the motto being that
if you can hold out, never accept the first valuation.


Parent - - By elmstones Date 07-04-2007 16:20
"Looked at the skid marks afterwards and they were about 35 feel long." That's a big pair of pants you had on :-) Glad you're okay!
Parent - - By Mad_Accountant Date 09-04-2007 18:11
Obviously I'm sorry to hear this but glad you are OK.

Your bike is/ was high mileage but try and retain the salvage - even if it seems hopeless our champions can probably do something with it.

And please don't beat yourself up about making a riding error, we all make mistakes all the time and usually get away with it. Sadly in your situation there is no chance for the other driver to compensate for your error so you end up with contact. There, but for the grace of God, go all of us!

Parent - - By C-Wonder Date 27-04-2007 20:37
Well I received a letter from the insurance company this morning. They're righting off the 200.

I'm not sure yet what I'm going to do about replacing it. I'm weighing up taking on another C1, a different kind of scooter altogether (probably either a Suzuki Burgman AN 400 or a Yamaha Majesty 400), or I may even not bother with 2 wheels and maybe use a car-sharing scheme like or I live in London and have used public transport now quite a lot. And actually it's quite good. I play in a couple of bands too and so have some amplification gear to sometimes shift about so it may be the sensible bet to go for the car-share option.

Opinions please.
Parent - - By beamish Date 27-04-2007 21:01
Don't give up on C1's. They may save your life.

Anyway, I am condsidering selling my FF red and silver C1200 with ABS, heated grips and PP windkit with around only 2400 miles on the clock to finance a Piaggio MP3 250.

I would sell if for a quick sale of £3000 and it's just like new. I would hope to get between £3200 and £3500 if properly listed on ebay. A rare opportunity. Let me know.
Parent - - By Mad_Accountant Date 28-04-2007 18:23

Don't give up on c1:s - they may save your life :-)

Try and get a decent test ride on an MP3 , when I rode one I thought it was quite tricky. Red200 may have his by now and be able to give an owners report.

Parent - - By beamish Date 28-04-2007 18:27
Don't worry Phil, i'm not giving up, just juggling things around a little. Funnily enough, I saw one being ridden in Leicester today. Looked good.

I like quirky things, that's why I married Jacky, :-O

I will definetly test one out before parting with any cash.
Parent - - By Mad_Accountant Date 28-04-2007 19:48
Paul, I seriously think you should wait a while. When they start hitting the second hand market for the same reason that C1:s did, ie owners buying for the curiousity factor then baling out, they will be a fraction of their new cost. Also see how they perform in the field - I heard that one scheduled service is for nearly 8 hours!

With all due respect to Si, and I do understand his reason for making the change, when I got off the MP3 and back on to the  C1: it felt SO good :-)

The MP3 is a brave design, it is like a quadbike that (sort of) actually handles but it's a lot of complexity to address a problem (a front wheel slide) that happens rarely to us and is usually rider error when it does.

Something tells me nothing is going to stop you this time :-)
Parent - - By beamish Date 28-04-2007 20:48
The proofs in the pudding. If I don't like the ride, I wont buy it. :-)
Parent - - By Marino Date 28-04-2007 21:14

>The proofs in the pudding. If I don't like the ride, I wont buy it. :-)
>I like quirky things, that's why I married Jacky, :-o

Good grief Paul,poor Jacky :-) :-)
Parent - - By beamish Date 28-04-2007 21:21
Hehe :-)
Parent - - By purple hat Date 13-05-2007 12:53
Paul if you give up on the C1 I'll never stop fainting with the loss! :)
Keep one of them please.  :)
Parent - - By szecsei Date 13-05-2007 13:29
Ye Gads, we can't have Beamish having no C1!
Parent - - By beamish Date 13-05-2007 13:31
LOL, don't worry, I was only going to sell one of the C1's and keep the other 2. :-)

I'm not sure i'm going to bother now anyway. :-)
Parent - - By purple hat Date 13-05-2007 17:14
Sigh of relief
Parent - By beamish Date 13-05-2007 18:02
Thanks :-)
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